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Lunik
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Originally posted by empirico
forse eran quelli con

"rilievi zigrinati per farla godere" ©Gart


:sbonk: scherzi?

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Hmm. Appronfondito la ricerca...

Ho trovato qualcosa di interessante :
... A free virus, which is nonmotile, would pass through a hole only if it were associated with a cell that moves or if it were moved by hydrostatic pressure through a hole.
However, monocytes and lymphocytes that may carry HIV are too large to pass through microscopic holes detected by routine testing. And an FDA study simulating free HIV in fluid under pressure found that most condoms leaked no fluid at all and that, "even the worst-performing condom reduced estimated viral exposure 10,000 fold."
The statement cites condom effectiveness during actual use evidenced by contraceptive failure rates ranging from less than one per 100 to 16 per 100 users per year. She illustrates the importance of proper condom use by results from a British study of married, more experienced users with condom-user failure rates for pregnancy as low as six per 1,000 users per year.
The Center for Disease Control's August 6, 1993 Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report estimates that the HIV transmission rate for consistent condom users is 1.1 per 100 person years of observation, compared with 9.7 for inconsistent users.
C.M. Roland's concerns about the barrier performance of latex rubber featured in the June 1993 issue of Rubber World were rebutted by an article by M.D. Morris and T.D. Pendle in the very same issue.
Morris and Pendle attribute condom failures mainly to misuse rather than any inherent defect in the product. Leaching in water, which is part of the normal condom production process, effectively makes the porous structure in the latex disappear, they claim. They also refer to the two rubber layers of a condom saying that, "the possibility of a hole being made through both layers, or of a hole in each layer being perfectly aligned seems extremely remote."


Quindi direi che questo confuta (almeno in parte), la citazione precedente....

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Originally posted by Lunik
:sbonk: scherzi?


No, non scherza, esistono. Come anche quelli ritardanti...

E alla fragola, alla banana,.... musicali....

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:lol::lol: che ci fanno con quelli musicali?????? :lol:
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Erm, quando, beh, si, insomma... quando vieni, suonano una musichetta...

Si, il mondo e' pieno di fuori di cozza :D

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ok chiudiamo qua l'OT che sta diventando un po' da :roargh:
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Originally posted by lallyblue
i costi non sono + così elevati come prima.

è sempre cmq un prezzo meno caro della vita :)

cmq si sa che i goldoni non sono perfetti al 100%, come del resto qualsiasi altra cosa al mondo, quindi non si può far altro che rientrare nel mio discorso di prima: bisogna essere più responsabili. :)

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Comunque per tornare IT, oltre a Madre segreta, esistono anche dei Centri di Aiuto alla Vita. Io collaboro con quelli della mia zona, quindi non ti posso materialmente aiutare, ma puoi indirizzarla presso quelli di Milano. Ti posto un paio di link utili.
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Originally posted by Lightman
No, non scherza, esistono. Come anche quelli ritardanti...

E alla fragola, alla banana,.... musicali....

Quello che mi sono sempre chiesto dei preservativi musicali ma che non ho mai osato chiedere è ......dove si mettono le pile???? :)

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sono un musicista, e nn sapevo di questa nuova invenzione... :|

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in ogni caso in consultorio o anche nelle asl le visite sono assolutamente gratuite.
sia quelle col ginecologo che gli incontri organizzati per aiutare le persone in queste situazioni.

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ma nessuno usa metodi naturali tipo quello del muco cervicale o quello della temperatura basale ?
Se non sbaglio sono quelli che insegnano ai corsi pre-matrimoniali dei cattolici.

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Originally posted by Renaulto
ma nessuno usa metodi naturali tipo quello del muco cervicale o quello della temperatura basale ?
Se non sbaglio sono quelli che insegnano ai corsi pre-matrimoniali dei cattolici.


Ai corsi prematrimoniali di solito dicono che non bisogna assolutamente usare metodi anticoncezionali, anche se naturali, perchè verrebbe tolto significato all' "atto".

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Originally posted by Napolux
Non usando niente il rischio aumenta in modo esponenziale, e non usare niente implica una certa incoscienza al giorno d'oggi.


A 20 spesso si fanno cazzate: una sera bevi, sei ubriaco/a, hai voglia di una/o, ti trovi corrisposto/a, e succede quel che succede.
Senza preservativo.

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Originally posted by Lunik
scusate, ma se da 5 euro mi passano a 12, 13 euro un motivo ci sarà, o no? O è solo per il guadagno da parte dei centri commerciali???
Io se noto notevoli differenze di prezzo x me è la qualità che cambia...
non so, sono solo mie idee...non so proprio un tubo al riguardo... :oops::oops:


All'Esselunga i preservativi costano 6,50€, e ce ne sono se non ricordo male 12 piu' uno in regalo.
Il distributore (quasi ogni tabaccaio automatico ce l'ha, oltre a molte farmacie) ne vende 7 a 3€. Oltre a costare meno offrono la possibilita' di essere acquistati anche in certi orari notturni (dove la percentuale di probabilita' di fare sesso aumenta, e per la legge di Murphy se ne e' sprovvisti e l'automatico piu' vicino e' a 5km e voi siete a piedi e lei c'ha voglia ma fra poco deve andare a casa... :D ) ed anche da ragazzi/e timidi (secondo me ce ne sono parecchi/e).

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